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Coaching@Henley: Episode 4

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Coaching and the dark triad; coaching narcissistic clients; Kish Modasia talks mindfulness.

Dr Rebecca Jones is joined by lecturer in coaching Aboodi Shabi and Associate Professor in coaching and behavior change, Dr Holly Andrews.

This episode starts with a discussion about ‘What can coaches learn from having an understanding of the dark triad?’ followed by our ‘Spotlight on Research’ segment. This episode focuses on a paper by Jannick Zimmerman & Julianne Friedrich, which looks at how coaches can deal with narcissistic clients (you can access the original research paper here). The episode finishes with an expert interview with Kish Modasia discussing mindfulness and coaching. Kish Modasia is Founder and Director of Leadership Coaching Company, Lead Your Life, established to partner with personal and corporate clients, developing and delivering bespoke Coaching and Mindfulness Courses. You can find out more about Kish’s work here.

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About the hosts

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Dr Rebecca Jones

Dr Rebecca J Jones is an Associate Professor in Coaching at Henley Business School, the Director of the Henley Centre for Coaching and a Chartered Psychologist. Her research interests lie in examining the factors that influence coaching effectiveness. Passionate about evidence-based practice and teaching, she incorporates her research into her teaching practice at Henley’s Centre for Coaching.

Rebecca is the author of the book ‘Coaching with Research in Mind’ and has published her research in leading journals such as Academy of Management Learning & Education, the Journal of Occupational & Organizational Psychology and the European Journal of Work & Organizational Psychology.

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Aboodi Shabi

Aboodi Shabi is a Lecturer in Coaching and Behavioural Change at Henley Business School.

He has been working in executive coaching and coach training since the mid 1990s and has several years of international coaching, training and leadership development experience. He has delivered coach-training programmes and worked with executives and teams all over the world, in sectors ranging from NGOs to financial services, pharmaceuticals and media.

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Dr Holly Andrews

Dr Holly Andrews is an Associate Professor in Coaching and Behavioural Change at Henley Business School and is the Programme Director for the MSc in Coaching and Behavioural Change. Holly’s particular area of interest is the dark side of personality at work.

Other episodes

Coaching@Henley: Episode 1

What’s the point of coaching research? Gratitude and long term change; Professor Riddell talks Neuroscience.

Coaching@Henley: Episode 2

Can anybody be coached? Research on acceptance and commitment coaching; is intuition in coaching judgmental?

Coaching@Henley: Episode 3

Can we ‘switch off’ being a coach? Julie Williams talks pro bono coaching; working with clients who aren’t engaged.